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	<title>Comments on: Catholics Grapple With Divisions Over Abuse</title>
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	<description>Supporting survivors of clergy sexual abuse and examining the cover up, causes, and effects of that abuse</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://reform-network.net/?p=2461&#038;cpage=1#comment-11248</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fear factor has been with us for a long time and those who go out on a limb to point out the deviations to a Church gone awry have nothing to lose.  It is Christ who promises salvation.  Within the Church, which is temporal, we only seek spiritual nourishment and guidance.  Grace comes from God and not the Church.  For the Church to receive grace...it must always do the right thing.  Jesus sought justice in the world...and we do too, as well as in this Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fear factor has been with us for a long time and those who go out on a limb to point out the deviations to a Church gone awry have nothing to lose.  It is Christ who promises salvation.  Within the Church, which is temporal, we only seek spiritual nourishment and guidance.  Grace comes from God and not the Church.  For the Church to receive grace&#8230;it must always do the right thing.  Jesus sought justice in the world&#8230;and we do too, as well as in this Church.</p>
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		<title>By: John Shuster</title>
		<link>http://reform-network.net/?p=2461&#038;cpage=1#comment-11239</link>
		<dc:creator>John Shuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 06:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The smoker at the end of the article summed it all up.  Most Catholics in the pews will go where the money and the power is.  They are afraid that if they don&#039;t obey the bishops and priests, they will not go to heaven.  It is the exemplary Catholic who will support survivors of sexual abuse and not let church leadership off the hook for shredding the lives of thousands of children and their extended families.  Most Catholics are willing to compromise their values and personal integrity because of fear.  Jesus did the opposite with his life.  We should too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The smoker at the end of the article summed it all up.  Most Catholics in the pews will go where the money and the power is.  They are afraid that if they don&#8217;t obey the bishops and priests, they will not go to heaven.  It is the exemplary Catholic who will support survivors of sexual abuse and not let church leadership off the hook for shredding the lives of thousands of children and their extended families.  Most Catholics are willing to compromise their values and personal integrity because of fear.  Jesus did the opposite with his life.  We should too.</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
		<link>http://reform-network.net/?p=2461&#038;cpage=1#comment-11229</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just trying to see crystal clear in the reality of truth, or the truth in reality.
Sometimes harsh &amp; not sugar coated, that&#039;s the way some of us are/were raised.
Who knows for sure, It may be a cultural thing that got passed down traditionally.
Anyway, my Holiday Greeting card to all,
&quot;May the beauty of nature fill your heart with joy this Holiday season&quot;.
and may there be &quot;Joy to &quot;your&quot; World&quot;.
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just trying to see crystal clear in the reality of truth, or the truth in reality.<br />
Sometimes harsh &amp; not sugar coated, that&#8217;s the way some of us are/were raised.<br />
Who knows for sure, It may be a cultural thing that got passed down traditionally.<br />
Anyway, my Holiday Greeting card to all,<br />
&#8220;May the beauty of nature fill your heart with joy this Holiday season&#8221;.<br />
and may there be &#8220;Joy to &#8220;your&#8221; World&#8221;.<br />
 <img src='http://reform-network.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
		<link>http://reform-network.net/?p=2461&#038;cpage=1#comment-11224</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 04:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what difference does a name make? 
Some change their original name to that of another whom they are hoping to aspire to the personality of that particular person whom they changed their name to.  Why? I do not know....
Some change their names like authors who use sueddo pen names,
and other&#039;s change it because their original name isn&#039;t liked because of what their opinion is.

oh, Yes, Happy Birthday to the Jesus in all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what difference does a name make?<br />
Some change their original name to that of another whom they are hoping to aspire to the personality of that particular person whom they changed their name to.  Why? I do not know&#8230;.<br />
Some change their names like authors who use sueddo pen names,<br />
and other&#8217;s change it because their original name isn&#8217;t liked because of what their opinion is.</p>
<p>oh, Yes, Happy Birthday to the Jesus in all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://reform-network.net/?p=2461&#038;cpage=1#comment-11223</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 02:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a time when the Church did not assume the process of declaring a saint---it was the people and the laity who knew the holy one during their lifetime...and declared them pure, holy and santified.  God is always aware of His saints regardless of what thoughts run through our minds.  And, His messengers ask the questions that others dare not ask.  ie &quot;why did you change your name?&quot;

It will soon be midnight and the start of our most holiest and joyful day.  There will be no more Christmas messages after the Masses.  All of the messengers have been given the day off.  The main message was delivered over 2,000 years ago and we as Christians are asked to live it...

&quot;Take care of one another, until we meet again&quot;



Happy Birthday Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a time when the Church did not assume the process of declaring a saint&#8212;it was the people and the laity who knew the holy one during their lifetime&#8230;and declared them pure, holy and santified.  God is always aware of His saints regardless of what thoughts run through our minds.  And, His messengers ask the questions that others dare not ask.  ie &#8220;why did you change your name?&#8221;</p>
<p>It will soon be midnight and the start of our most holiest and joyful day.  There will be no more Christmas messages after the Masses.  All of the messengers have been given the day off.  The main message was delivered over 2,000 years ago and we as Christians are asked to live it&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Take care of one another, until we meet again&#8221;</p>
<p>Happy Birthday Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
		<link>http://reform-network.net/?p=2461&#038;cpage=1#comment-11209</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Rome should be contemplating canonizing the Victims of Clergy Abuse for Sainthood, instead of jp2 &amp; maciel 
for it is the souls of the victims that were martyred for their faith,. The faith that was abused through its leadership of &quot;chosen&quot; shepherds who taught the faith &amp; were to preach the faith to safeguard the flock against those who murder the souls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rome should be contemplating canonizing the Victims of Clergy Abuse for Sainthood, instead of jp2 &amp; maciel<br />
for it is the souls of the victims that were martyred for their faith,. The faith that was abused through its leadership of &#8220;chosen&#8221; shepherds who taught the faith &amp; were to preach the faith to safeguard the flock against those who murder the souls!</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
		<link>http://reform-network.net/?p=2461&#038;cpage=1#comment-11207</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What becomes of the pedophiles who are still in the priesthood?, who have abused and go unnoticed or undetected?.
This pedophile disease or mental illness just doesn&#039;t go away miraculously, what happens next? 
Though billions of Masses on the celebration of Life have been said, the pedophile problem is still there.
The Celebration of Life, is about the innocent life God has given you, and no-one has the right to take it from you, nor abuse it!
Praise be to God!
Let all of the Angels join in on that one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What becomes of the pedophiles who are still in the priesthood?, who have abused and go unnoticed or undetected?.<br />
This pedophile disease or mental illness just doesn&#8217;t go away miraculously, what happens next?<br />
Though billions of Masses on the celebration of Life have been said, the pedophile problem is still there.<br />
The Celebration of Life, is about the innocent life God has given you, and no-one has the right to take it from you, nor abuse it!<br />
Praise be to God!<br />
Let all of the Angels join in on that one!</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
		<link>http://reform-network.net/?p=2461&#038;cpage=1#comment-11206</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd, 
Thousands of Masses said but only 2 were said for clergy abused victims? 
and the Mass was for reconciliation? who was asking  to being forgiven?, and who was given a pardon?.
Yes, although billions have been paid to victims, I am sure it cost Catholic Dioceses across the nation many more dollars &amp; cents  in defending their predatory men of the cloth.
Why, is their a division between parishioners? I would have to think that the &quot;religious&quot; leadership has something to do with the division of mixed emotions among its Christian members. How can anyone just &quot;get over it&quot;, when it fact the continuing pedophile problem hasn&#039;t been clearly addressed?
I didn&#039;t know maybe the rules have changed, but I thought that when someone commits suicide a Mass cannot be said for the suicide victim.
and to think that girls cannot be altar servers anymore? I thought that the female gender is very much apart of God&#039;s plan as the male gender. 
I do not think God created different genders for one to be more superior than the other!
ah, &quot;Poor Mary&quot; , the first disciple, Jesus&#039; Mother whom he LOVED immensely, her gender offsprings are treated so differently? why? when God held her to such a high esteem?, and yet women of yesteryears &amp; today somehow do not have that same respect for her gender? How can a culture based upon religious faiths produce such an imbalance in the dignity of genders? if God calls a woman, or a man who to do the work &quot;who&quot; or what has that authority to say that God didn&#039;t?.
Unbelievable &amp; tricky theology on God and how it is taught, as if God is Bias in anyway?.
Well, I think that the victims should be included in the daily supplications of the Mass along with all the other 
intercession made on behalf for priests, bishops &amp; popes.
Why should the clerics/religious be the only ones to pray  for intercession for &quot;Eternal Life?&quot; in the Mass of &quot;Life&quot; disciples celebration?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd,<br />
Thousands of Masses said but only 2 were said for clergy abused victims?<br />
and the Mass was for reconciliation? who was asking  to being forgiven?, and who was given a pardon?.<br />
Yes, although billions have been paid to victims, I am sure it cost Catholic Dioceses across the nation many more dollars &amp; cents  in defending their predatory men of the cloth.<br />
Why, is their a division between parishioners? I would have to think that the &#8220;religious&#8221; leadership has something to do with the division of mixed emotions among its Christian members. How can anyone just &#8220;get over it&#8221;, when it fact the continuing pedophile problem hasn&#8217;t been clearly addressed?<br />
I didn&#8217;t know maybe the rules have changed, but I thought that when someone commits suicide a Mass cannot be said for the suicide victim.<br />
and to think that girls cannot be altar servers anymore? I thought that the female gender is very much apart of God&#8217;s plan as the male gender.<br />
I do not think God created different genders for one to be more superior than the other!<br />
ah, &#8220;Poor Mary&#8221; , the first disciple, Jesus&#8217; Mother whom he LOVED immensely, her gender offsprings are treated so differently? why? when God held her to such a high esteem?, and yet women of yesteryears &amp; today somehow do not have that same respect for her gender? How can a culture based upon religious faiths produce such an imbalance in the dignity of genders? if God calls a woman, or a man who to do the work &#8220;who&#8221; or what has that authority to say that God didn&#8217;t?.<br />
Unbelievable &amp; tricky theology on God and how it is taught, as if God is Bias in anyway?.<br />
Well, I think that the victims should be included in the daily supplications of the Mass along with all the other<br />
intercession made on behalf for priests, bishops &amp; popes.<br />
Why should the clerics/religious be the only ones to pray  for intercession for &#8220;Eternal Life?&#8221; in the Mass of &#8220;Life&#8221; disciples celebration?.</p>
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