ABSOLUTE MUST READ: Why ordaining women is worse than raping kids

In this day and age good satire is hard to find. Brilliant satire is a pearl of great price.

This spoof letter by famed theologian Rosemary Radford Ruether is, I think you’ll agree, a pearl of great price.

I found this precious gem on the katholica YahooGroup where the ever vigilent Earlene Mara posted it.

We are all in your debt, Earlene.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

And to Rosemary Radford Reuther what can we say in the presence of such brillance?

Thank You, Thank you, Thank you are not enough but more appropriate words escape me at this late hour in the evening.

Read it, enjoy it, marvel at it, and weep, weep, weep.

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Rosemary Radford Ruether spoof letter

Posted by: “earlene.mara@gmail.com” earlene.mara@gmail.com earlene6

Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:32 am (PDT)

This has been making the rounds, and many have believed it to be true.

*Women’s Ordination as a delicta graviora*

(Private Vatican notes on the impending statement on sexual abuse, leaked by a woman secretary charged with typing the statement)

Your excellencies, we are gathered here to determine a statement on canonical procedures for how dioceses should handle priests who sexually abuse children. It is unfortunate that we have to continue to engage in this issue. It is clearly being blown out of proportion by forces in the media and secular society hostile to the Holy Roman Catholic Church. But because this issue continues to be raised, it is important for our public image that we appear to be taking this seriously. We should issue a statement that appears to be giving new and firm guidelines for dealing with this issue, without making any significant changes in the way we handle it.

One of the greatest things about the Holy Roman Catholic church is that we never really change. We need to handle this issue of sexual abuse by priests in the same way we have been dealing with it for 2000 years.

However we propose adding some other issues to this statement about other grave crimes having to do with sexual abuse. The one that particularly needs to be dealt with is the supposed “ordination of women.” This is a horrifying development and it seems to be out of control, especially in the United States, where the people lack authentic Catholic values of obedience to authority. We understand that some fifty women and some sexually deviant men have attempted to be ordained pseudo-priests and even pseudo-bishops, a travesty that belies the fundamental meaning of ordination and is creating scandal in our churches.

As we know from our oldest tradition, women are not only not allowed to be ordained to any level of priestly orders, but they are actually incapable, by their very female nature, of receiving the sacrament of Holy Orders.

Thomas Aquinas clarified this in the 13th century. He elucidated the fact that women are fundamentally defective, biologically, morally and mentally, by the very manner in which they are conceived, in which the male formative power fails to fully shape the passive female matter and so a defective being or woman develops. Of course, we can’t say this directly any more, because of the power of retrograde feminism in society, but we know this is the case and has always been the case, intended by God from the creation of the world.

To attempt to ordain a woman is similar to attempting to ordain a monkey or a kangaroo. It simply wouldn’t “take.” Besides this, and this is what we particularly need to address in this document, such attempted ordination is a deep sacrilege that is an offense against the very holiness of the sacrament of Holy Orders. To put a bishop’s hands on a woman as if to ordain her is comparable to sexual abuse of a child. In fact it is worse than sexual abuse of a child. The abuse of children by priests is a regrettable moral slip by weak individuals, doubtless sexual deviants, which happens frequently, and is best dealt with by sending the priest for a short period of counseling and then transferring him to another parish. He should not be dropped from the priesthood if possible. Priests are valuable and their numbers are dropping. They possess through their ordination the invaluable power of confecting the Eucharist. So we should lose as few of them as possible.

By contrast to attempt to ordain a woman is not only a sexual offense in the laying of the sacred hands of the bishop upon the polluted body of a woman. But it is a vicious contradiction of the very nature of Holy Orders, a sacrilege, as I said before. It is this aspect that makes it so much worse than the minor moral slips in which priests abuse children.

This is why we need to include this issue in our statement on sexual abuse.

It is abuse on a much deeper level than the merely physical. It is an outrage against our whole sacred hierarchy of holy orders. We need to stop it immediately and cast those who have done it firmly outside our borders.

Unfortunately they don’t seem to be listening to us. By including this issue in our statement, the whole church will be alerted to the graveness of this crime, and immediately cast these desecrated people outside the church, revealing that they lack any relation to God mediated through the sacraments which we alone control. Once again: Rome has spoken. The case has ended.

    22 Responses to “ABSOLUTE MUST READ: Why ordaining women is worse than raping kids”

  1. Thomas Says:

    The universal church cannot be a part of the universe…the Universe is in constant flux…should any human organization be any different? If women withheld their dollars from the church, and sex from their husbands because of what the church thinks of them…we would have collapse of the Vatican Bank and the second burning of Rome!!!!!!!!! Talk about spousal abuse—the spouses of Catholic women would put an immediate end to hierarchy! The case is still open.

  2. Deanna Leonti Says:

    Maybe it’s all apart if mind controlling women, with that submissive crap they added to the Bible!

  3. ERW Says:

    Oh yes, Thomas Aquinas!! That is a name emblazoned in the minds of the older generations of women for the worse!! It is inconceivable how Thomas Aquinas became a declared Saint of the Church. His pronouncements against women have been used for hundreds of years from the pulpits of the Church to justify the inexcusable abuse of women. There were pastors that shouted tirades of Aquinas’ quotations at the females, on a regular basis during their Sunday sermons. As small children, young girls would have liked to crawl underneath the pews, even so they did not fully understand at that time the demeaning phrases attributed to that so called saint.

    Today, it is not fashionable anymore to use the expertise of Aquinas regarding woman’s issue, as his judgment are much to cruel and unacceptable for our times (in our Western world at least.) Half of the population–women, and some men for that matter–would not stand for it anymore. A good thing our are daughters are not even familiar with the Aquinas degradation of their gender, or they might have all defected. But even so their is a deafening silence on that Thomas, Aquinan attitudes are blatantly obvious in our hierarchy.

  4. Deanna Leonti Says:

    Why does the RCC have soooo many manual about conduct?
    here is another one…. I guess they are an authority on everything…


    and now there is an updated version of this one?


    and this one?


    They got manual for everything?. why? and who write them? where do they get their info from to write about in these manuals?

    the Mormons, the Watch Tower all have extra books, aside from the Bible, and the RCC have Catechism?

  5. Deanna Leonti Says:

    The Christians are definetly the “New Jerusalem”, they are the new slaves to the Eye in the Sky Pharoahs aka
    “The Supremes” aka Heir-Archy…and the Great Infalible Leader is a Cyclops, just a little old man wearing a red suit, with a HUGE phalicsymbol looking hat? with Prada loafers?. and his grapes turned into raisans?
    What in the hell? what warped time period are they living in?.

  6. ERW Says:

    Deanna, love your twists, cracks and the connections you make, for some chuckles. Even so the situation we are dished out to deal with, there is a saying translated from the German: “Humor is when we laugh in spite.”

  7. Deanna Leonti Says:

    Sometimes it is better to Laugh than cry…same endorphines are used!

    “He who has achieved success has worked well, laughed often and loved much.”
    Elbert Hubbard
    “With the fearful strain that is on me night and day, if I did not laugh I should die.”
    Abraham Lincoln
    “If you’re not allowed to laugh in heaven, I don’t want to go there.”
    Martin Luther
    “The penalty for laughing in a courtroom is six months in jail; if it were not for this penalty, the jury would never hear the evidence.”
    H L Mencken
    “Man plans and God laughs.”
    Jewish Proverb
    “All things are cause for either laughter or weeping.”
    Lucius Annaeus Seneca
    “I am thankful for laughter, except when milk comes out of my nose.”
    Woody Allen
    “Even if there is nothing to laugh about, laugh on credit.”
    “Mirth is God’s medicine. Everybody ought to bathe in it.”
    Henry Ward Beecher
    “What soap is to the body, laughter is to the soul.”
    Yiddish Proverb

  8. Deanna Leonti Says:

    My Mother used to tell me this one,

    ~When you Laugh, everyone Laughs with you,
    When you cry, you cry alone.

  9. Thomas Says:

    Every Thomas is different…that Thomas, of Aquino…was considered a dumb ox. I’m not saying that he was or he wasn’t but his bias does come through in his writings and why such things were held onto by the Catholic Church as unchanging truth is way over my head. The problem is that the Catholic hierarchy does not contest what falls off the lips of their own—-they just question and label as heresy what they don’t want to hear. Hear this—even Thomas’s are imperfect! And in the end, they too will be asked to take back every derogatory word against their brothers and sisters.

  10. Thomas Says:

    My mother use to say…”eat something and forget your troubles”—that may have worked for the old Italians in the past but these are different times. Today, our troubles need to be faced, solved, and guarded so that they never ever return to hurt another living soul.

  11. ClevelandGirl Says:

    This is satire? It looks too much like fact to be satire unless you consider everything RCC Inc says or does anymore to be nothing but a Roman Farce…

  12. Deanna Leonti Says:

    No, it isnt until you have read all the code of conduct rules aka “manuals” punched out by RCC Inc., on everything…don’t you know RCC Inc. is an authority on everyone & everything!?.

    They are sooooo stuffy, and upper lip….somebody open the window, and let some FRESH AIR IN!


  13. ClevelandGirl Says:

    Ya know, Deanna, it really isn’t a farce in the sense that *real people* are *really getting hurt*. That part is neither farcical nor funny.

    What is farcical is the utter cluelessness of the hierarchy, their continued cockups that are only digging them into a deeper hole and alienating more people, their deflection and blame that they *think* will get them sympathy.

    Oh, and a certain poster here who believes that RCC Inc-sanctioned BDSM practices will help one to achieve holiness and get one approval from gawd and a ticket to heaven. That post on “mortification” a few articles back *proves* what I’ve said about the sickness of the institution and how “redemptive” violence is a rule rather than an exception. “Mortification” is nothing but BDSM dressed up in fancy gold-trimmed robes and Prada shoes, the practice of dominance and submission disguised as religious practice to get people under control. What would *you* do for a Klondike bar? How far would you be willing to go to get into heaven? Even JPII was into BDSM, as described by those who wish to promote him for asap sainthood. The abuse in Ireland in particular just reeks of BDSM as a kink practiced by the priests and nuns on children (with the adults as doms and the children as subs, children set up for a lifetime of being sexual bottoms from being accustomed to being submissives).

    Looks like the candy boy is a kinky bastard – question is, is he a top or a bottom? Or a switch-hitter? He certainly isn’t vanilla!

    There lies the Roman Farce!

  14. Deanna Leonti Says:

    Yes!, you are “RIGHT” clevelandgirl, anyone who performs self-mortification aka self-mutilation (real world term) is considered a psycho..but by the “Almighty Roman Catholic Gawd” mortification is looked upon as “holy”…and RCC Inc. Has been BRAINWASHING all the innocents of free will & thinking douls right @ the first time they perform that ritual on that poor li’l baby born out & from the sinful nature of fornication for how many thousands of years?!

  15. Deanna Leonti Says:

    Who gives an “airborne fortification” what happens to those who “prey” upon little children of the innocence!.

  16. Joe O'Leary Says:

    Does Rosemary Ruether think that delicta graviora is a singular noun?
    Does she think illegal ordination of women is a good thing?

  17. Joe O'Leary Says:

    ERW, Aquinas made no pronouncements against women. In fact, he went out of his way to correct Aristotle’s view that the female is a defective male by citing Avicenna’s view that the male was a defective female.

  18. ERW Says:

    Are you kidding me? It is the other way around, the females were defective males. This is getting weirder all the time.

    Have you read all his utterances on the female species? Of course, he was in good company with Augustine of a much earlier time, who had used women as a convenient outlet. When the hormones declined, he conveniently converted, and did a lot of damage for my gender ever after.

  19. Thomas Says:

    In the beginning, when God saw that it was not a good thing that Adam the first man be alone, he created him a campanion…Eve. Maybe God would like His priesthood to be fully human through the faces, voices, and works of female priests? If woman was good enough to be created from Adam’s rib, where in hierarchy will He find the method and material to allow His creatures equality? There is nothing good that can be formed frow the jawbone of asses…nothing!

  20. Thomas Says:

    And who invented that word—mortification? Discipline is always a good thing in due moderation. Much of the world has lost its discipline—Roman discipline is like mortification in reverse…it is heaped upon the people of God as laws and doctrine. Who has enough lifetimes to be burdened by this stuffy stuff? Keep it simple…the law was given and written long ago…it is not to be added to or subtracted from…every Christian knows this—don’t we? No wonder Martin Luther had a few bad hair days in his time.

  21. Deanna Leonti Says:

    Clevelandgirl you had mentioned in a previous post about crossing one’s arms so that others can’t drain your spirit.
    In servicing the public we are instructed to not fold our arms, because it gives off a “closed look”.., and are told when greeting a customer to look them in the eye, and yet be open, don’t cross your arms, so that you will look more inviting to the future guest.
    We have no choice..we automatically get psychoanalised about our posture & appearances…

  22. Thomas Says:

    If we spent our lives worring about body language do you know how many twisted sisters one would have to deal with in a 24hr’s time? :-)

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