MUST READ…Breaking News: The Vatican Is Super-Gay
From The Daily Dish, a blog by Andrew Sullivan.
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Breaking News: The Vatican Is Super-Gay
28 Jul 2010 10:43 am
I haven’t commented on this dog-bites-man story of the Vatican being crammed to the gills with homosexual priests who have long since abandoned the increasingly frantic anti-gay ideology of Ratzinger. And most of the commentary has rightly focused on the extreme response of the Vatican – defrock them now for consensual adult sex! – compared with the long tolerance of child rape and abuse. But it is worth noting, once again, how utterly hollow the Vatican is on the subject of homosexuality. It is an institution so embedded with homosexuality it makes Broadway look straight. The stories I’ve heard! The network of gay priests is vast in Rome, and is, in my mind, as unhealthy for those who get away with it – the hypocrisy must hollow out the soul in the end – as for those who impose it. Instead of grappling with this fact, owning it, and seeking to diversify the priesthood by ending the celibacy requirement and men-only anachronism, the Vatican clings on to denial and repression. And as society and the actual church evolves – as both must – the denial and repression must increase in proportion – until the sheer ridiculousness of the whole thing becomes apparent even to the most devout.
Increasingly, on these issues of modernity, the Vatican of the new millennium seems like the Soviet Politburo of the 1980s. They pretend to believe what they preach while we pretend to obey them. One day, this surreality will pop like a bubble. One day.
30 Responses to “MUST READ…Breaking News: The Vatican Is Super-Gay”
July 31, 2010 at 7:10 pm
http://reform-network.net/?p=6117#comments This may be of interest.
July 31, 2010 at 7:12 pm
http://www.boyhoodshadows.org/genesis.html Here it is!
July 31, 2010 at 8:10 pm
That is old news as well. About 15 years ago the San Francisco Examiner,(then a regular, respected, by- subscription-only, daily paper) did an extensive documentary on the diocesan clergy. The claim was, that 75% were gay. That count might be higher today. One friar assured his lay friends, that in the arch diocese of San Francisco, all promotions and the choicest parishes would be given to gay priest only.
But then, a former Catholic friend became so turned off by negative experiences with clergy while living in Rome, she left the Church. As a young, very attractive, well educated divorcee in Rome, she was propositioned regularly at social functions, by priest. Rome is so full of clergy, you cannot avoid them anywhere. A celibate priesthood???
In a blog (I wish I remember which one) a former seminarian claimed to be forced out of training, for being straight and rejecting the advances of superiors and teachers. It also surmised, the Catholic Church was keeping up the facade of celibacy, to have a save heaven for gays.
July 31, 2010 at 10:55 pm
So the priesthood is either gay, or hit’n ya!…
I wonder why?.
If the priests have trouble with keeping their Celibate or Chaste vows & not keeping their pride tucked
than there is always is chemical castration!.
Can’t use it, Lose it! At least that’ll help keep their “sinful desires”
in check.
Gee, i wonder when they first got their design on that divorce?
July 31, 2010 at 11:39 pm
The priesthood is a secret society developed out of the Roman Empire and from there it came from the Egyptian Mystery Religions. It is shrouded in secrecy to this day, and mysteries fill every diocese around the world; ask any priest and he will tell you he has no idea why things are run the way they are. But there are Masonic lodges built right into some of the Roman Catholic Seminaries. If you haven’t figured out the different levels of secrecy by now, you’re not paying much attention. It’s all about boys, secrecy, and fake celibacy. It fools all the old ladies, anyway; just make sure you get them praying the Rosary–daily. By that time, they don’t have a prayer to figure out all the hoaxes being pulled over on them, one right after the next.
August 1, 2010 at 12:54 am
Read between the lines. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2orht60ghbo
August 1, 2010 at 3:05 am
In the Roman Republic, the Pontifex Maximus was the highest office in the state religion of ancient Rome and directed the College of Pontiffs. According to Livy, after the overthrow of the monarchy, the Romans created the priesthood of the rex sacrorum, or “king of sacred rites,” to carry out certain religious duties and rituals previously performed by the king. The rex sacrorum was explicitly deprived of military and political power, but the pontifices were permitted to hold both magistracies and military commands.
The official residence of the Pontifex Maximus was the Domus Publica which stood between the House of the Vestal Virgins and the Via Sacra, close to the Regia, in the Roman Forum. To this day in St. Peter’s Square you will see the Phallic Symbol surrounded by a vaginal emblem painted on the ground. The Pontifex was not simply a priest. He had both political and religious authority. It is not clear which of the two came first or had the most importance. In practice, particularly during the late Republic, the office of Pontifex Maximus was generally held by a member of a politically prominent family. It was a coveted position mainly for the great prestige it confers on the holder; Julius Caesar became pontifex in 73 BC and pontifex maximus in 63 BC.
The Pontifex Maximus (Latin, literally: “greatest bridge-maker”) was the high priest of the College of Pontiffs (Collegium Pontificum) in ancient Rome. This was the most important position in the ancient Roman religion, open only to patricians until 254 BC, when a plebeian first occupied this post. A distinctly religious office under the early Roman Republic, it gradually became politicized until, beginning with Augustus, it was subsumed into the Imperial office. Its last use with reference to the emperors is in inscriptions of Gratian (reigned 375-383) who, however, then decided to omit the words “pontifex maximus” from his title.
August 1, 2010 at 3:19 am
Here is a ritual held every April since 1832 at Yale University at which the Pope visits the campus, or someone dressed as Pope; “At one point in the proceedings every initiate kisses the slippered toe of the “Pope.”" http://www.skullandcrossbones.org/articles/skullandbones.htm Now, just why do you suppose that is?
August 1, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Brothers, you have done exactly what you forbade of us…you have travelled shrouded in the darkness of sin. Even so far a distance from the shadow of God. How can you show us the way when you yourselves are blind?
August 1, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Hi anon and Thomas: What are your thoughts about gay folks? Sometimes I’m not certain if you are bigots? Like maybe you think of gay folks as nuts?
I’m a queer Snapster.
August 1, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Thomas, give yourself a break…
It’s not about the gospel of any natural kind, it’s always about dollars & sense/cents?
August 1, 2010 at 4:08 pm
No, Frank I think they are showing how the Vatican calls homosexuality intrisically evil on one hand, and then on the other hand they are living the lie!, a double standard, for a double lifestyle..
Read between the lines what goes on behind the Vatican sheets!
Vatican wants to rid their precious priesthood of gays, so why don’t they start at the top with their boy-toys first….before they dare to preach about it, or come out of their closet cloister lifestyle and admit what they are & why they want to be a precious priest…one has to know what their true intentions are proof is needed to back up innocens
August 1, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Frank, this is strictly about the deceit and hypocrisy of the miss-leadership of the Catholic church. No bigots here, except towards those lairs and criminals in high places. Anon, give little old ladies more credit. The ranks of dissidents are filled with the likes of us. If you see letters staunchly defending the hierarchy it is usually men posting those comments.
Little old Lady me
August 1, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Thanks Deanna and ERW…sometimes I need help understanding what’s said…gracias.
August 1, 2010 at 5:01 pm
I need an oil can my neck is squeak’n!
Tin-Woman?
August 1, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Ps….Glad you are back Frank!
August 1, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Gracias Deanna…it feels good to be in the world again! HOORAY!
If there are any folks who attended the SNAP 2010 Conference, please bring the rest of us who weren’t there up to date….thanks!
August 1, 2010 at 6:45 pm
The world is made up of all sorts of people…that will not change. The other thing that is not able to be altered is character…some are good and some not so good. What’s with the gay stuff Frank—sexual identity can’t be changed either? My thoughts are…all are equal, all should be respected, all should be shown dignity, all should be included…and the world does not need to know one’s sexual identity for all of that to occur. I stand by my word…and God somehow makes sure that I keep it!
August 1, 2010 at 10:00 pm
I appreciate hearing from you Thomas. Yup…I was born a queer.
Unfortunately, we tend to be less equal on planet earth.
I haven’t spent much time thinking about God. I spend most of my time painting and enjoying friends and my boys, chili & puddy, mini doxies!
August 1, 2010 at 11:01 pm
anon…what are you reading between the line? help me…frank
August 2, 2010 at 4:02 pm
In the link below you see a view of the piazza at the Vatican’s St. Peter’s square. The papal palace is on the right of the photo. The large eight-rayed sun wheel design, symbolic of Ishtar, is evident. Look closely in the center of the wheel. What you see is a genuine Egyptian obelisk shipped from Heliopolis to Rome by the Roman emperor Caligula. The obelisk is a phallic symbol, but it also was used in sun worship. Some photos of the center of St. Peter’s square show that around the obelisk at the center of the 8-point sun wheel is a smaller 4-pointed sun wheel, the same symbol as found on the altar stone in the temple of Baal in Hatzor. The Egyptian obelisk that stands in the square of St. John Lateran is the largest in existence. Carved during the reign of Pharaoh Thutmoses III, it stood in the Temple of Amon in Thebes (Karnak), but was removed to Rome by emperor Constantius (A.D. 317-361), and placed in the Circus Maximus. This was at the time when the Christians became organized into what today is known as the Roman Catholic Church. In 1587, Pope Sixtus V unearthed the fallen, broken and long forgotten obelisk and had it repaired and placed in the Piazza S. Giovanni in Laterano. Now this obelisk, meant to honor the sun god, stands beside what Catholics call the supreme “Mother of all Churches”, the official cathedral of the bishop of Rome.
http://www.hol.com/~mikesch/piazza.jpg
August 2, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Here are some videos that should make you think about the messages within images built into many churches in Chicago, New York, Washington… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh12tEoGFXw&feature=related
August 2, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Now why would a claim to fame “holier than thou” make artwork to look demonic & hang it in their church to use to help inspire people to what?.
Hmmmmmmmm……
August 2, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Man what a traffic jam that would cause, and the poor sheep don’t even notice these signs of flashing red lights are Flags!..nope but the Vatican has it’s mono eye on the bank, not banking on God, must be the Bank of Gad?…oh, what else can they do when their battery runs out?..
August 3, 2010 at 2:00 pm
I just started this Blog, any suggestions & comments will help..Thanks, D
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August 3, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Try this link… its better than German Bratwurst!
http://mortalslair.blogspot.com/2010/08/council-of-discussion.html
August 3, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Those aren’t the signs that you should be looking for. Poooooooooooooooooooooof! There gone…use the wand! Unimportant…insignificant… In the very early days, even the altar was made by stone untouched by human hand or tool—in this form, it was a gift in itself from the Creator. We are suposed to use the gifts that are unique to us, His creatures!
August 4, 2010 at 4:20 am
I keep doing something wrong when I try to sign in. I’ll try again tomorrow D.
August 5, 2010 at 3:48 am
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http://www.youtube.com/user/AdministratorCJ
August 5, 2010 at 3:54 am
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http://www.canvasreplicas.com/Rembrandt102.htm